1996 saturn sl

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by spazoid43, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. spazoid43

    spazoid43 Guest

    I'm having a headlight problem with my daughters saturn..The right side
    headlight low beam would not come on..bought new one..still same (high beam
    OK) tested both old and new on left side and both work..
    I looked trhough chiltons and found nothing to help me....

    Then yesterday my daughter calls and tells me her boyfriends friend went and
    wired the left light to the right and now the lights are very dull...anybody
    have any clues?????
    thank you
     
    spazoid43, Sep 30, 2006
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  2. spazoid43

    Doug Miller Guest

    1. Undo whatever your daughter's boyfriend's friend did.
    2. Don't let that clown within ten yards of her car again.
    3. Check for corrosion in the right-side headlight connector.
    4. If that looks ok, trace the wiring to the right-side headlight. There's
    probably a break in the insulation somewhere, allowing the wire to ground
    against the frame.
     
    Doug Miller, Sep 30, 2006
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  3. thanks for the reply..I undid what he had done..but lights still dull..
    will follow wiring back to check..do u know of anything (besides fuse block)
    that could cause this?????

     
    spazoid43 via CarKB.com, Oct 4, 2006
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    NapalmHeart Guest

    Did you find corrosion at the connector?
     
    NapalmHeart, Oct 4, 2006
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  5. spazoid43

    Doug Miller Guest

    Apparently you haven't undone *all* of it, if both lights are dull, since only
    *one* light was dull before he monkeyed around with it.
    Poor connection to ground would do that too. Trace the wires, and look for
    faults. I'm betting you have a corroded connection somewhere -- something has
    a high-resistance connection to ground. This could be either a hot wire that's
    not supposed to be grounded (but is, partly) or a ground wire that is supposed
    to be grounded (but isn't, partly).
     
    Doug Miller, Oct 4, 2006
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    mark Guest

    Two thing it sounds like are going on here. If you have a volt meter
    check you voltage on both lights, I think you'll find that the left one
    is at 0V and the right one will show 12V.

    Now, Igotta tell you before we start that I am doing thisone completely
    from memory of a fuse panel layout that I don't have in front of me so
    it may not be worth anything.

    I think that Saturn from 96-2000 had a seperate relay for each side of
    the head lamps(R & L). If so the wiring or relay may not have been
    strong enought to support both lights. Check the relays first after you
    check the connectors for corrosion(which I don't think you'll find.)


     
    mark, Oct 4, 2006
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  7. spazoid43

    Doug Miller Guest

    That's not consistent with the reported observation that both lights are dim.
     
    Doug Miller, Oct 4, 2006
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    Mark Guest

    True, however it was not completely clear whether it was one light dim
    and one light out now or both lights dim. I was thinking this vehicle
    had a relay for the lights that was separate for right and left. I
    looked at a buddies 99 sl-2 this morning for a minute or two and did
    not see the relays where I thought they should be. I believe I am wrong
    about there being separate relays (in fact, I did not see any relays
    for the lights except a DRL relay).

    Anyway, here is how I would troubleshoot.
    While the lights are actually burning and the car is running.

    1) FIRST!!! Check the voltage at the battery under the same
    circumstances to verify the proper voltage is being supplied (At least
    12 Volts while the car is running prefer 13 or better) (if not you need
    to repair the alternator first)

    2) Check the voltage at the back of the bulb with a meter (connect the
    meter to a separate ground not to the light ground). Based on the
    observations there, do one of two things.....

    ******If the meter shows 12V or better at the light (with car running
    and light bulbs burning)

    3) check your resistance from bulb to ground next and proceed from
    there to repair either a faulty ground, or a bad bulb.


    *****If the meter shows less than 12V (with car running and light bulbs
    burning).....
    Then we have a problem with the supplied voltage follow these steps.

    3) Check the voltage on both sides of the fuse, then do some wire
    tracing and check the voltage at various points. Somewhere. along the
    line your voltage will drop big time from the 12V plus you see at the
    battery to the significantly less than 12 volts you see at the back of
    the bulb. When it does, your problem lies between the 2 points.

    If you get down to wire tracing you'll find it easier to take the car
    to a competant automotive electric specialist or your local mechanic as
    they will have the tools to better trace the wiring.
     
    Mark, Oct 5, 2006
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