'93 SC2 flunks NY state emissions on HCs...

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Philip Nasadowski, Oct 15, 2005.

  1. Ok, I'm ast the end of my rope here. I'm flunking the NY state
    emissions on HC's. Cutpoint's .80, I'm at 1.0. NOx and CO are
    virtually nil, like 1/4 or less the limit:

    * Put in a new cat. No real change.
    * Put in new plugs, wires, coils. No help.
    * Changed the fuel filter. Old one was plugged badly. This got me from
    1.45 to 1.0.
    * Changed the thermostat. Not checked it yet but the thing stays in
    more or less the same temp range anyway.
    * O2 sensor. Was ok.

    I'm thinking either ignition related, vacuum leak (but where?), or fuel
    pump/pressure regulator, maybe? I mean, what else is there? Slip the
    tester $75 and be done with it?
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Oct 15, 2005
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  2. CTS has this ever been changed they are cheap, maybe 20 bucks , can be
    checked with ohm meter should read high resistance when cold about 4k ohms
    at 60 degree f. about 100 ohms when hot say about 240 degree f. When my CTS
    went bad it ran ok when cold but when hot engine was geting to much gas,
    might be your problem!
     
    justastreekin, Oct 15, 2005
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  3. CTS #3 or 4 in there now :/
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Oct 16, 2005
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  4. Glad we dont have emission testing here phil, one other possiblity is maybe
    injector leaking or pluging up, i dont believe the cleaner you put in the
    tank will help!! i have had sticky injectors and i took them all out and
    cleaned them while activating them with 1.5v flashlight batery. i have 170
    thousand on my 93 whats yours got on it?
     
    justastreekin, Oct 16, 2005
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  5. Philip Nasadowski

    user Guest

    I thought that only vehicles newer than about 1997 were being
    subjected to this dumb test that is part of a new and rotten way
    for the gouging NY state officials to lighten the state's
    populace? Sorry, I must be one of those pessimists that I've
    been seeing mentioned in the news. The state web sites I think
    reflect what I'm saying regarding the emissions test, at least
    they did awhile back. If my old car fails this, it'll sit.
     
    user, Oct 16, 2005
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  6. Upstate only. I'm downstate, where we've had this BS for decades now.

    The car's got 250,000+ miles and is ready for the dumpster, just I can't
    get it in there YET. The $75 emissions 'test' looks better and better,
    and geez, everyone else does it these days anyway. NY state really
    doesn't care how much your car pollutes anyway, they just care they fail
    the 15% required by the EPA and that's it. Plenty of other states got
    rid of this crap, but what do you expect from a DEP/DOT/DMV that just
    wasted 1/2 a billion dollars putting in HOV lanes on the LIE, and wants
    to spend *ten billion* to put a bus lane in on the Southern State, which
    parrallels the LIRR's 2nd busiest line??
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Oct 16, 2005
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  7. Philip Nasadowski

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Have you looked at the PCV? How much oil is it burning? What weight oil
    are you using now?

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Oct 17, 2005
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  8. Replaced that too.
    Not much. I don't even bother checking it between changes much since
    it's well below 1 qt every 1,000 miles.
    Stuff that's spec'd on the oil cap.
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Oct 17, 2005
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  9. Philip Nasadowski

    Blah Blah Guest

    In Ohio if you spend X amount of money in trying to correct the
    emissions failure you can get a waiver. Not sure if NY has a simular law
    but its worth looking into.

    ----------------------------------------------------
    http://www.epa.state.oh.us/dapc/echeck/testing_info/waiextem.html

    What is a waiver?

    When a vehicle has failed at least one emissions test and the owner has
    made efforts to have that vehicle repaired, a waiver may be issued at an
    E-Check test facility. The motorist must bring all original emissions-
    related repair receipts, as well as the vehicle, to the station in order
    for a waiver to be issued. Repairs may be performed at any repair
    facility or by the vehicle owner. In the case of self-repairs, only
    receipts for parts will count toward a waiver. An owner may not submit
    receipts for her/his own labor. Tampering-related repairs do not count
    towards either waiver option. Note: waivers are not transferable to the
    new owner if the vehicle is sold.

    Option 1 - Applies to the Tailpipe Test Only:

    CONDITIONAL PASS WAIVERS are issued after the initial tailpipe test. To
    qualify for this waiver, the vehicle must be a 1995 or older model year
    and must show:

    a) at least a 30 percent improvement from the initial emissions
    readings for which the vehicle failed without causing initially passed
    readings to exceed state standards; AND

    b) eligible receipts for emissions-related repairs totaling at least
    $200. Tampering-related repairs do not count towards this option.
    Receipts will only be accepted for repairs performed within sixty days
    of the initial inspection.

    The above type of waiver applies only to vehicles tested via the
    tailpipe test.
    ----------------------------------------------------
     
    Blah Blah, Oct 17, 2005
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