96 SL 2 has a boring noise

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Leeinwind, May 16, 2006.

  1. Leeinwind

    Leeinwind Guest

    The mechanic told my friend her 96 SL2's noise came from the A/C
    compressor. The repair fee is even more expensive than the car. But till
    now, everything works fine. Even A/C also works very well. Does she need
    to get the problem fixed? What's the exact reason of so much noise? Thanks
    a million in advance.
     
    Leeinwind, May 16, 2006
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  2. Leeinwind

    NapalmHeart Guest

    More description of the noise is needed. Many things could be making noise.
    Alternator noise is common right before the alternator dies.

    Ken
     
    NapalmHeart, May 17, 2006
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  3. Leeinwind

    SnoMan Guest


    A/C compressor can get pretty noisy before they fail and it is not
    uncommon at all. If you are mechanically inclinded, you might consider
    changing the compressor yourself as they can be had rebuilt for less
    than 200 bucks and then pay someone to recharge system. You do not
    wnat to go to a dealer to get this fixed price wise.
     
    SnoMan, May 17, 2006
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  4. Leeinwind

    Leeinwind Guest

    Now I'm almost sure the noise comes from the A/C compressor. How long could
    my friend still use her A/C? Would it last this summer? Is it helpful to
    charge oil into the compressor? Thanks a million.
     
    Leeinwind, May 17, 2006
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  5. Leeinwind

    SnoMan Guest

    Depending on how bad the noise is, not likely and adding more oil will
    raise head pressure and speed its desime. I have seen them seize up
    and snap the drive belt when they get bad enough (it happened to a
    freind a few years ago)
     
    SnoMan, May 18, 2006
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  6. Leeinwind

    NapalmHeart Guest

    The first thing you really need to do is be 100% sure where the noise is
    coming from. Replacing parts in a search of a diagnosis is an expensive
    proposition.

    Ken
     
    NapalmHeart, May 18, 2006
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  7. Leeinwind

    SnoMan Guest


    AC compressor wear and noise is pretty common with age and easy to
    acsertain too. No sense in looking for other gremlins that do not
    exist and planting false hopes.
     
    SnoMan, May 18, 2006
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  8. Leeinwind

    Leeinwind Guest

    So what could I do now? It has been checked by another friend who is also
    pretty sure the noise coming from the A/C compressor.
     
    Leeinwind, May 18, 2006
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  9. Leeinwind

    SnoMan Guest


    Replace it or wait tell it lets go and hope it does lock up first. If
    it is a bearing the noise will be constant more or less but if it is
    in the compressor internals, it will get loader as it get warmer
    outside and pressure in compressor rises. Both are terminal but the
    bearing is more li9kely to seize up suddenly one day.
     
    SnoMan, May 18, 2006
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  10. Leeinwind

    Box134 Guest

    Whenever I hear a boring noise in my car, it's usually the mother-in-law.
     
    Box134, May 19, 2006
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  11. Leeinwind

    NapalmHeart Guest

    There is a lot of sense in being sure where the problem is, as it appears
    the OP has done.
     
    NapalmHeart, May 21, 2006
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  12. Leeinwind

    Leeinwind Guest

    Well, I checked the car again. Although three friends told me the noise
    coming from A/C compressor, I still couldn't be pretty sure. Since even
    A/C is turned off, the noise is still there. Now I'm really wondering it's
    from the alternator. I'll check it this afternoon.
     
    Leeinwind, May 21, 2006
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  13. Leeinwind

    Private Guest

    Nobody has asked if the noise is occurring only when the AC is on or off.

    If the noise is occurring only when the AC is on then the problem is in the
    compressor and is easily solved by either immobilizing the system by
    disconnecting the electric clutch wiring connector or by just not turning it
    on. You can also use it until it fails and then disconnect it but this may
    increase the cost of a future repair and may allow the escape of
    refrigerant.

    If the noise is only occurring when the AC is off then the problem is
    probably in the electric clutch or the clutch bearing. I do not know if
    there is sufficient clearance to change the clutch and bearing unit without
    draining and opening the AC system but AFAIK it will require the use of a
    specialized puller.

    Get several quotes for the repair as there are lots of crooks in this end of
    the business and you will find that the prices quoted vary tremendously.
    Many shops will also quote a low price then after they get it apart will say
    that much more work must be done. Make sure you have a WRITTEN agreement
    for the cost of the complete job and which DOES NOT AUTHORIZE any additional
    repairs.

    Depending on your location and climate it may be better to just open the
    window and remove the air system compressor and use the non AC belt drive
    system. I have no idea whether this will require changing any belt drive
    parts other than the belt.

    I live in a climate that does not require AC and avoid purchasing AC
    equipped vehicles whenever possible, it is an expensive luxury to purchase,
    operate and maintain..
     
    Private, May 21, 2006
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  14. Leeinwind

    Leeinwind Guest

    Thanks a lot. All the advices are very helpful. Would it be a big work to
    uninstall the alternator if the alternator were wrong as NapalmHeart said?
    The noise is on when the car is started no matter whether turning on/off
    the A/C, which makes me doubt it's not the A/C compressor's problem.
     
    Leeinwind, May 21, 2006
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  15. Leeinwind

    Private Guest

    Your problem could also be the belt tensioner, idler, power steering pump or
    water pump or timing chain.

    Take a piece of (clean) 5/8" or 3/4" ID hose about 2 feet long. With the
    engine running, place one end of the hose in your ear and (carefully) point
    the open end close to each moving component. Caution, do not wear loose
    clothing or rings or long hair and do not allow the hose or anything else to
    get caught in the pinch points. The hose will isolate the sounds that you
    hear and should allow you to hear where the noise is coming from. A piece
    of solid wood or steel dowelling can also be used if the bearing you wish to
    check is accessible but the hose is easier and usually safer.

    You may need to remove the right wheel and inner fender for access, make
    sure you use solid blocking and do not work on the car while it is on the
    jack.

    Work carefully and safely. YMMV
     
    Private, May 22, 2006
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  16. Leeinwind

    SnoMan Guest

    You guys have him chasing gremlins. AC compressors fail a lot in older
    cars and can get quite noisy and it is very easy to verify too.
     
    SnoMan, May 22, 2006
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  17. Leeinwind

    BläBlä Guest

    Leeinwind, start with a cold engine. Remove the accessory belt. Hand
    turn, spin in some instances, each component, ac pulley, water pump,
    belt tensioner, alt, P/S... Also rock/move them back and forth to see if
    they're sloppy. See if anything is abnormal, also check p/s fluid while
    you're there. Now start the engine with the accessory belt still off. DO
    NOT run it for no more than a minute. If you still hear that sound then
    it is NONE of the aforementioned items! Wow that was easy!

    Report back with your findings. Replacing parts without verification is
    a waste of money and time. There is no reason to replace the a/c
    compressor if you say that the noise is still there when it is off! The
    compressor isnt doing anything when it is turned off. If it is coming
    from the compressor it would likely be from the pulley's bearings and
    that can be removed and replaced without recovering and recharging a
    functioning a/c system. Doing so could create larger problems.
     
    BläBlä, May 22, 2006
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  18. Leeinwind

    NapalmHeart Guest

    There's the word - verify. Make sure what it is before you start replacing
    parts.

    My son is driving the '96 SL2 I drove. 190,000 miles and the AC compressor
    is working fine. All the other belt driven accessories have been replaced
    at least once.

    Ken
     
    NapalmHeart, Jun 3, 2006
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