98SL2 brake troubles, dealing with the dealership service dept

Discussion in 'Saturn S-series' started by richard hornsby, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. I had my 98SL2 (~74K mi) in to the local Saturn dealership about a month
    ago for an oil change. They found several problems, some of which were
    covered under the extended warranty, and a couple that weren't. All
    told, I walked away having to shell out over 500$ for what was supposed
    to be an oil change*.

    One thing that was covered was both rear brake wheel cylinders were
    leaking fluid. They supposedly fixed that. However, I had to take the
    car back two days later because the brakes weren't bled properly - the
    pedal had excessive travel and was mushy.

    I'm taking it back in tomorrow because since they bled the brakes, the
    car shudders when I brake, especially at highway speeds (ie, getting off
    the freeway.) I can feel it most in the pedal, but also in the steering
    wheel. The shuddering is a rapid pulsing which seems to maintain
    frequency but drop intensity as I come to a stop. It isn't a violent
    shaking, but the brakes simply don't feel right at all.

    Warped rotors and improperly installed calipers are two causes of this
    behavior, IIRC. Are there other possible causes? How would you
    approach the service manager when you take your car in (for the third
    time in a month)? I don't want to be a jerk or another irate customer,
    but I am aggravated that

    a) I don't remember noticing or having this problem before the
    dealership worked on my car, which makes me wonder if it is something
    they did or didn't do correctly
    b) If the problem is something like warped rotors, wouldn't they have
    seen that while I was there last time? Do rotors just suddenly up and
    warp one day, or is it a gradual process?

    Thoughts/comments/suggestions?

    tia,
    -rj

    * I usually don't take it to the dealership for just an oil change, but
    every once in a while I will just in case there are things which need to
    be taken care of, like this time.
     
    richard hornsby, Apr 22, 2004
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  2. I can comment to piece of your post... I've warped them in a single event.
    Anytime the wheels come off and I don't care who does it, I drive easily for
    the first 30-50 miles and then retorque the wheel nuts. Usually only the
    fronts have backed off, however this last visit both fronts and backs took
    retightening...
     
    Jonnie Santos, Apr 22, 2004
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  3. Turned out to be warped/worn rotors. They weren't covered under any
    kind of extended warranty, but apparently Saturn of Columbus warranties
    these brake pads for the life of the car, despite the fact that they're
    a wear item.

    They showed me the rotors and the tech (saturn mechanic) mentioned
    something about "metal transferrance" between the rotors and the pads if
    the vehicle sits to long. He said he didn't know why it happened, but
    that it did. Can anyone shed some light on this? Just curious.

    -rj
    98SL2
     
    richard hornsby, Apr 22, 2004
    #3
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    Lane, Apr 23, 2004
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