ABS light on

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by njot, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. njot

    njot Guest

    The ABS light started coming on on my 93 SL2 once the car gets above 60
    mph. Then it stays on and does not go out until the car is shut off
    and restarted. It will stay off until the car is driven above 60 mph
    again, and it will come on again and stay on.

    Does anyone know how to troubleshoot or diagnose this light?

    Thanks.
     
    njot, Feb 4, 2006
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  2. njot

    Lane Guest

    You can read the codes yourself with a paperclip with the instructions here:
    http://www.differentracing.com/tech_articles/index.html

    See OBD1 diagnostics. But, since the charts that site provides may not
    include ABS codes, you can also stop by Autozone and they will read the
    codes for free.

    And last but not least, you can make an appointment with the service
    department at your Saturn retailer for a diagnostic. There's usually a fee
    involved, but if their diagnosis saves you from buying ONE part you don't
    need due to guessing, it has paid for itself.

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, Feb 4, 2006
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  3. njot

    Oppie Guest

    Possibly the wheel speed sensors are worn. Could even be the teeth on the
    axle that the speed sensor reads are rusted and the gap has increased. The
    increased gap may degrade the signal enough that at high speeds the output
    becomes intermittent and shows as an ABS fault.
     
    Oppie, Feb 7, 2006
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  4. njot

    njot Guest

    OK, I replaced the wheel speed sensor that I suspected (the right
    front- since the problem started there after I removed the c/v joint
    from the steerign knuckle).

    And now, the ABS light comes on at 35 mph instead of 60 mph.

    Do you know what the air gap is supposed to be? What is better, less
    or more of an air gap?

    Can I just sand the rust off the teeth on the axle and increase the
    signal (hopefully?)

    Thanks.
     
    njot, Feb 7, 2006
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  5. hello there just a bit of experience here with my 93 sl2 abs , the rear abs
    conector wire that goes to right rear wheel was (faulty),the piece of wire
    was about 18 inches long ,the wire was corroded inside the insulation, i
    pealed the insulation off and wire had crumbled to a greyish powder
     
    justastreekin, Feb 7, 2006
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  6. njot

    njot Guest

    OK- I will definitely check this.

    I was actually able to find out the trouble code and what it means.
    It is ABS code 26- right front wheel jitter.

    Does anyone know what that means and how do I correct it?

    I will check the wiring, and check the teeth on the axle.

    Thanks!!
     
    njot, Feb 8, 2006
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  7. njot

    Oppie Guest

    There is a 'sweet spot' in the air gap. The sensor has a small magnetic
    circuit in it that is completed when the teeth of the 'gear' teeth of the
    axle. Two raised teeth complete the magnetic circuit while the grooves break
    it. There should be enough of a low to high difference to trigger the
    sensor. You can wire brush the gear teeth to clean out the grooves or
    possibly shim the sensor out to get about .020" gap to the teeth.

    As also posted, worth pulling gently on all wires to look for corrosion.
    Pull the connectors off and spray the faces with white grease to make them a
    bit more water resistant.

    Sensors vary in technology so it is hard to give exact electrical
    troubleshooting. Sometimes there is no DC voltage on the sensor, it
    generates a voltage similar to a electric guitar pickup. Others have a dc
    voltage on the sensor which is pulled low when the teeth pass by. Difficult
    to measure with a handheld meter though.
     
    Oppie, Feb 9, 2006
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  8. njot

    njot Guest

    Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who replied.
    Your ideas were extremely helpful. Thanks!!

    I found out the problem- two of the gear teeth on the axle are chipped.
    The two that are chipped are right next to each other.

    I have no idea how I'm going to fix that, or if it even is fixable
    without replacing the axle (oh no), but at least I figured out what it
    was. Thanks again.
     
    njot, Feb 12, 2006
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  9. njot

    Oppie Guest

    Don't know if there is an iron filled epoxy??? The teeth need to be able to
    be attracted to a magnet. Surely there must be some sort of repair kit
    available for this. For that matter, perhaps you can get someone who is good
    at arc welding to drop a couple of beads and then grind them out to the
    correct tooth profile again. If you weld, make sure the ground is to the
    axle and not the strut. Welding current should *never* pass through
    bearings.

    Seems really stupid to have to change an axle for this. You may have to do
    something if your state requires mechanical/ emission inspections.
    Here in NY, any MIL indicator and immediate fail...
    good luck
    Oppie
     
    Oppie, Feb 13, 2006
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  10. njot

    ernie Guest

    See Lane's post above. he lists a link that lists the ABS codes
    and and some trouble shooting ideas.
    ernie
     
    ernie, Feb 13, 2006
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  11. njot

    blah blah Guest

    Reman ABS axles at Advance start around 70 to 80 bucks and there will be
    45 dollars off of that with a core exchange. Paying to have the old axle
    welded would cost more than its worth especially considering it may fail
    at any given time with its age.
     
    blah blah, Feb 14, 2006
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