ABS problems in 97 SC2

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Raven, Jan 15, 2004.

  1. Raven

    Raven Guest

    My abs warning light keeps going on. It happens alot in bad weather
    like in last night's snowstorm in NYC. But it will also come in dry
    weather. This will usually happen after the abs system kicks in. Also
    when the abs system engages the red Batt warning light will flash for
    a second. Sometime both the red brake warning light and abs light will
    come on. In either case I still have brakes but I'm sure I don't have
    abs.
    When this happens I will turn off the car if possible and let the
    system reset.
    This works but last night those lights came on again. What is
    interesting is that the "traction active" lights came on while I was
    driving over ice telling me the traction system was working.
    I thought that if I didn't have abs the traction wouldn't work either
    because the two systems are tied together. I'm sure the abs wasn't
    working though because when I tried to stop on ice the car started
    swerving and I did not hear the abs kick in.
    I have had this problem looked at twice by my local mechanic. Each
    time he runs the system through his diagnostic computer and each time
    the computer shows that the system is ok. He even tested the car with
    the computer while driving it. The last time he checked the system was
    two days ago along with the cars scheduled maintenance. The car has
    about 65,000 on it.

    If anyone has any idea that could shed some light on the problem and
    help my mechanic find the problem I would greatly appreciate it.
    Perhaps I should just bite the bullet and take it to Saturn.
    Thanks for any help you can give.

    Harold
     
    Raven, Jan 15, 2004
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  2. Given that the battery warning light sometimes comes on, I would suspect low
    charging system voltage. It seems to be a somewhat common problem on the
    S-cars that the alternator can be bad, and although still charging, not
    putting out enough power. The ABS system will complain if the electrical
    system voltage is too low for it to function properly.
     
    Robert Hancock, Jan 16, 2004
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  3. Raven

    Raven Guest

    Would this explain why when my mechanic tests the alternator he says
    it's charging ok?
    The thing is when the alternator is being tested, even with a full
    load of a/c etc, the car is motionless. It is only when the wheels are
    turning and the car is in motion that the abs goes out. Also when the
    a/c is running the dash lights are abnormally dim.
     
    Raven, Jan 16, 2004
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  4. Depends how they tested it. If they consider it to be OK if it's charging at
    all, that doesn't mean much..
     
    Robert Hancock, Jan 16, 2004
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  5. Raven

    Raven Guest

    I had him put a new alternator in thanks to your reply. Everything is
    running the way it should be now. Unfortunatly the warrenty was out on
    the old alternator (this is the second time I've had to replace the
    SC2 's alternator. Last time was 10/02). He also replaced the device
    that keeps the tension on the alternator belt. One more question. Can
    I expect to replace this alternator in a year? Is there anything I can
    do to keep it healthy?
    Thanks for your help.

    Harold
     
    Raven, Jan 17, 2004
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  6. Raven

    Kirk Kohnen Guest

    Yup. Replace the battery.

    Bad alternators kill batteries, and bad batteries kill alternators.

    If your alternator was going, it probably damaged your battery.

    Since batteries are relatively cheap (compared to alternators and the labor
    in replacing them), I would suggest getting a new battery.
     
    Kirk Kohnen, Jan 17, 2004
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  7. 3 alts and 3 batts on my 97SL2 - my dealer is or was warranting alts for 3
    years so my 3rd was a freebie...
    ....I like what Kirk says about the two (batt and alt) needing to both be in
    good working condition.
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jan 18, 2004
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  8. Raven

    Raven Guest

    Now that I've had the alternator replaced all the system on the car
    seem to be running fine. But my engine is noisy. When I popped the
    hood it sounds like it's coming from the alternator. I will be
    bringing it back to my mechanic but I want to know to if this is
    because of the extreme cold we've been having here in NYC. It hasn't
    gone above freezing since the alternator was put in last week and in
    most cases it's been in the low teens. The alternator remains noisy no
    matter how warnm the engine gets. It sounds like something needs
    lubication or perhaps a loose belt. But the noise definitly sounds
    like it's coming from the alt. Is this normal?
     
    Raven, Jan 26, 2004
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  9. It's not normal to get that kind of noise from the alternator, regardless of
    the temperature..
     
    Robert Hancock, Jan 31, 2004
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  10. Raven

    Raven Guest

    It turns out it was the water pump making the noise. I had it replaced
    and everything's fine.
     
    Raven, Feb 7, 2004
    #10
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