Another Saturn?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by teem, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. teem

    teem Guest

    Will you get anothr Saturn?,I reall dont think so,but,what else is out
    there?,Just got my monthly pay statement & i'm just over 6K to go!,the
    time to decide will be around sooner than i thought.
     
    teem, Jul 18, 2006
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  2. teem

    Steve Guest

    When I'm ready to buy, I'll check the latest annual reliability report
    in _Consumer's Reports_ and shop for what appear to be the best value. Since
    I don't feel the need for great performance, I'll be looking at the low-end
    compact market. This is how I wound up with my last two cars -- '94 Saturn
    SL and '99 Saturn SL. YMMV.
    Good hunting!
     
    Steve, Jul 18, 2006
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  3. No. For a few reasons...

    I was very happy with my 96 SL2. That baby took 100k miles like a
    champ. It died when it fought a tool truck, and won. Won meaning it
    threw the truck into a roll and into a ditch. The insurance company
    totaled our car, but Wifey was unscratched. Amen for 96 SL2. Saturn
    got rid of the SL's so not interesed in the IONs.

    Now my 97SL2, too many mysterious 'problems' that they couldn't find
    for years. I only recently had my fuel pump replaced, and it seems
    all the problems magicly went away. After 6 years of intermittant
    stalling, and rough starts (car only has 70k miles). When the
    experts(three different dealers couldn't find it till the pump
    actually clearly failed). So was a sour experience. So Saturn got a
    black mark from this.

    Saturns are not in the top 10 for "American Made" Cars. Infact Toyota
    holds two positions on some of their models, but Saturn doesn't have
    one. A google search for "most american car" gives you the list I am
    talking about, or check here: http://www.urlbee.com?7322

    Last, Consumer Reports reviews of any saturn model kinda 'sux'. I
    haven't seen any saturns make it to their 'recommended' cars.

    Damn, I miss my 96SL2. I've become so sad about Saturn since. :(

    tom
     
    Tom The Great, Jul 18, 2006
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  4. teem

    BläBlä Guest

    I really like the 4 cyl Vue's (and upcoming sky) but there really isnt
    anything else under the Saturn nameplate now that I care for. Actually
    there isnt much under any name plate that I like. You might take a look
    at an Ecotec powered Malibu. In my mind its probably the closest you can
    get to what a modern day S-series would have been.
     
    BläBlä, Jul 19, 2006
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  5. teem

    dirtbag Guest

    The 4cyl Vue is so slow it is almost dangerous.
    I drove one a couple of weeks ago as a rental from Hertz.
    Had it for a week and couldn't wait to give it back.
    Turning circle seemed very wide as well.

    Sky looks like a bitchin' car!
     
    dirtbag, Jul 19, 2006
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    marx404 Guest

    Anything with an ecotec engine will be fair game for me. I am still awaiting
    to see the new Aura sedan and eventually the upcoming replacements for the
    ION and VUE.

    Now that I have had a few weeks to closely look at the Chevrolet line-up,
    there are many admirable diffrences, however, as far as American made
    vehicles, I have yet to find anything that compares to the safety of
    Saturns.

    Hopefully as Saturn integrates with GM, the same considerations of safety
    and gas mileage wil be maintained within the new designs. Only time will
    tell.

    marx404
    happy saturn owner.
     
    marx404, Jul 19, 2006
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  7. teem

    Joe Blow Guest

    I'm on my third Saturn SL and it has just passed 150,000KM. When it
    goes over 240,000KM, I have to look around for a replacement again.
    That'll be in another 2 years.

    The SLs has been great for me. Virtually no maintenance other than
    oil changes, spark plug changes, coolant changes and brake changes.
    All regular maintenance. I also got into a head on collision with an
    Accord several years ago. The combined speed was 90 - 100KM/h and
    both cars were totalled. I walked away with a bruised shoulder (seat
    belt). The Accod driver had cuts to his knees.

    If Saturned still makes the SL, I will get one without a second
    thought. Unfortunately, they don't anymore. I've looked at the Ion.
    There's less driver foot room, and it gets worse mileage (the SL
    currently gets just under 50MPG imperial). But the polymer body
    panels is a major bonus. So I'll see what happens in 2 years. If
    there are no better choice, it'll be the Ion.

    I read lots of car reports. Saturn ranks low in all of them. But
    that's OK. Because the car is fine for me. And that's what counts. I
    don't live my life by someone else's opinion. I just use their
    opinion as a reference.
     
    Joe Blow, Jul 19, 2006
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  8. teem

    teem Guest

    Amen to that,brother,can;t get a chubby at ANY of these ''cars''
    today.I really would like to get one with a 6 cylinder,forgot how they
    work.
     
    teem, Jul 19, 2006
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  9. teem

    Private Guest

    I am assuming that 6k to go means until it is paid for. Perhaps you might
    consider driving a car that is paid for, it is an interesting and
    pleasurable experience. You may like it so much you will just make it last
    as long as you can, I submit that will be a LOT longer than you would
    expect, (IF you operate it properly and keep up the maintenance and escape
    crashing).

    ..
    and tires, trans oil, battery, plug wire, backup light switch & horns.
    And one wheel bearing which is debatably also maintenance. Crashes and
    automatic transmissions and oil burning (which is really maintenance caused
    by overly 'spirited' driving?) seem to be the real car killers.

    snip
    Agreed.
    We currently have over 260k and still going strong. Saturns are just
    starting to show up in the cheaper wrecking yards so I hope to be able to
    find cheaper parts and replace some of the cracked plastic fender liners and
    stuff under the bumpers. I suspect that the S series used parts
    availability will be great for about the next 10 years.
    I am NOT impressed by the ION, I would buy a new S series (sigh) especially
    one with the expected third generation improvements. I have found the S
    series to be a great car and think that there are some people who are now
    getting great bargains in used cars. I would particularly recommend the 96>
    SW1 - 5sp. I am not a big fan of either the twin cams or especially the
    automatic transmissions.
    Not me, I think automotive journalists are just word whores stoking the fire
    of excess consumerism. They will recommend anything they get paid or can
    use for free.
    Because Saturn is not giving them enough money or free usage. Expect some
    favorable reports about the Sky when sales drop off and Saturn has some
    unsold demos to give to the word whores in exchange for good press.
    Agreed.
     
    Private, Jul 19, 2006
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    bo peep Guest

    No, it won't be a choice in 2 years - 2006 is the last year for the
    Ion, and the last year for the polymer panels.

    John Cowart
     
    bo peep, Jul 20, 2006
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    Sir Creep Guest

    Troll. Trying to demean this fine vehicle (I know 4 other owners who
    all loved them, and this is why I got one) with a blanket and baseless
    declaration that it is 'dangerous' tells me all I need to know re: your
    post. Perhaps it was slow cuz you didn't step on the pedal. Similarly
    I would presume the reason you had such a wide turning circle (I've
    never had trouble parking if that's what you mean) is due to the fact
    you didn't turn the frickin wheel all the way.
    Sir Creep
     
    Sir Creep, Jul 20, 2006
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  12. teem

    teem Guest

    I tried keeping my old Ford Contour as long as possble,I think 7 years
    is longer than average,but when sensors start malfunctioning & I have
    to pay for it,well,that's wrong.I'm hoping this Ion will stay the
    course,i'm used to it now ,but would rather have a larger vehicle.
     
    teem, Jul 21, 2006
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    SMS Guest

    True, most vehicles don't compare, they do much better. Saturn actually
    ranks very poorly in terms of safety.

    See "http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=40" where the Ion is
    close to last in crash test safety. The Vue is in the middle in terms of
    small SUVs, see "http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=58".
    The Relay didn't do great either, see
    "http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=80".

    Safety isn't the only criteria to look at, but if it's of prime
    importance, then Saturn is not a wise choice.
     
    SMS, Aug 1, 2006
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  14. teem

    SMS Guest

    All the reviews mention the slow performance of the 4 cylinder, though
    they call it things like "tepid" and "lethargic." It's too big and heavy
    for such a low power engine.
    The AWD version has a wide turning radius, but the 2WD version is about
    average.
     
    SMS, Aug 8, 2006
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    itsa93sl1 Guest

    I HAVE A 93 SL1 5SPD,1.9 SOHC W/ 252000+ MILES IT USES ABOUT 1/2
    QT OF OIL EVERY 3K MILES WHEN AND IF IT DIES I WILL GET ANOTHER SATURN!
     
    itsa93sl1, Aug 17, 2006
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  16. Nice cap locks. Before you jump into a new saturn, just remember they
    don't even make SL's anymore. So the Good track record they
    developed, they tossed out to start new again.

    Check car reviews. Look before you jump. ;)

    later,

    tom @ www.NoCostAds.com
     
    Tom The Great, Aug 17, 2006
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