Battery Shield question

Kirk Kohnen · Sep 14, 2003

Yup. ION's battery is in the trunk.

DC area can get hot for the summer. But 2 years does seem short.

My SL2 is just over 4 years old with the OEM battery. But, I am thinking
about replacing it before winter. And isn't the ION's battery in the trunk?
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Guest · Sep 14, 2003

My 98 SC2 still has the original battery (knock on wood). FYI, my 2000
chevy pickup has the heat shield, so GM is doing it beyond the Saturn brand.

I also read on
http://uuhome.de/william.darden/carfaq11.htm
that underhood temperatures have been rising in the last 2 decades so my
guess is that someone at GM did a test and determined that the thin heat
shield gets most batteries through the first 3 years.

Jon
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interesting. I stand corrected. I wonder why they just don't
completely remove the batter from the engine compartment
and place it in the trunk like european cars?

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Guest · Sep 14, 2003

DC area can get hot for the summer. But 2 years does seem short.

My SL2 is just over 4 years old with the OEM battery. But, I am thinking
about replacing it before winter. And isn't the ION's battery in the trunk?
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It might be more because of the constant stop and go driving
in the area. Drive for 10 miles, park the car and then restart
and drive another 5 miles. The public transit system isn't the
greatest for the 'burbs so one almost *has* to have their own
transportation to get around yet most things are within a 5-10
radius. Consequently, there's a lot of short distance driving,

Interesting.

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Hutch001b · Sep 14, 2003

The ION battery is in the trunk.

C. E. White · Sep 15, 2003

interesting. I stand corrected. I wonder why they just don't
completely remove the batter from the engine compartment
and place it in the trunk like european cars?
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The long battery cables are expensive, and the voltage drop can be a
problem. A few US cars put them in the trunk, but I consider it an
undesirable idea for most "passenger cars" as opposed to "sporty cars."

Ed

C. E. White · Sep 15, 2003

No false assumption at all. In fact you contradict the very argument
you're trying to support.

If the vehicle is *indeed* priced by marketing, they would also
include any items that would draw in more sales (like you mentioned)
that would provide a strong ROI. If a 50 cent doo dad would increase
sales by 100%, then it's a good marketing ploy...even if it does
*nothing*. Stripes and neon colors do nothing for performance or
reliability, however if targeted towards the right demographics, it
*can* and *does* increase sales.
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How many people even know they have a battey insulator?

A battery blanket doesn't increase sales since the Saturns largest
target demographic are females who care little if the battery has a
blanket or not. In fact, I doubt a majority of them even know that it
HAS a blanket or even what it's for. The vague answers in support of
such a blanket in this thread even support that.

If warranty costs were an issue, the manufacturer *and* dealerships
would ensure that the batteries leave the bays with the blankets
installed. Additionally, unless Saturns are so unique to the
automotive industry, (they aren't), you would see ALL new vehicles
having such blankets (you don't).
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The last 4 new vehicles I bought all had battery insulators. In fact, it
has been at least 11 years since I bought a new vehicle that did not
include a battery insulator.

Ed

Robert Gagné · Sep 22, 2003

df
..all I know is that the average life span of an OEM battery is about
two years. That's how long our '00 LS2's battery lasted *with* the
fancy blanket and that's how long our 97 SL2's battery lasted
*without* the blanket. It's also about how long our Dodge Durango's
OEM battery lasted without a blanket. However the replacement
Optima batteries *without* a blanket has lasted (on the Durango and
LS2), over three years and still going strong. Yes, excessive heat
can shorten the life of a battery no doubt. I just think, for the
average joe schmoe who doesn't live in extremely hot climates,
it's not going to make that significant of a difference. If it did,
Saturn (e.g. GM), would of put the battery in the trunk instead of the
engine compartment.
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It is now done for the ION the battery is in the trunk

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