Brakes

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Matt, Nov 26, 2004.

  1. Matt

    Matt Guest

    On a 2000 SL1 how do I know when I need to change my brake pads? Will
    they make a sound?
     
    Matt, Nov 26, 2004
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  2. Matt

    Elector Guest

    Some have screamer pads that make a sound, but you would or should know way
    before then when you have the car in for an oil change or tire rotation have
    them just peek at the brake pads and rotors.

    There are other signs like pulsating pedal, pedals that go almost to the
    floor, longer braking time etc.

    Elector
     
    Elector, Nov 26, 2004
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  3. In My Humble Option:

    Most accurate way is measure the amount of pad you have left. Many
    shop manuals will give something like thickness in mm's, while some
    shops will suggest replacement at 95% left. :p

    As for noise, the noise is generated when a scraper like device acts
    like a tunning fork when it comes in contact with your rotor. The
    idea is, any time you have bad noise from your brakes you will go to
    the shop, and in this case it's just a pad replacement. Don't wait
    till you get down to this scretching point, the device can mar the
    rotor forcing you to the have to turn them. If you do your own breaks
    you will know that you don't have to turn them every time you do a pad
    replacement, it reduces your rotor life, and cost time and money.

    BTW, any 'weirdness' in your brakes is an indicator that you need to
    have them checked. Example: pulsation, softness, noise, etc....

    hth,

    tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
     
    newsgroups01REMOVEME, Nov 26, 2004
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  4. Matt

    chuck smoko Guest

    Elector,
    I have a difference of opinion on your advice to Matt. You can have al-
    most worn out on the pads and not get any of the "other signs" as the signs
    are indeed symptoms of other problems. Pulsating pedal is one or both
    rotors OR drums in the rear having too much runout. The pedal going low
    is sometimes caused by your rear drums not self adjusting and needing lots
    of fluid to move them far enough out to hit the drums. In the snow belt,
    rusty adjusters can cause this or lack of adjusting (see PS below).

    The "squealers" are not required; so there is no substitute for visual
    examination
    of the brakes. Most states require 2/32" for bonded for it to pass state
    inspect-
    ion. Most pads are bonded as opposed to rivets. This 2/32 (aka 1/16") is
    "about" the thickness of a penny. You can't stick the penny in there; so you
    have to visually compare. Pads with rivets should be replaced at about 5/32" or

    so as the rivets will hit sooner than the metal backing of the pad.

    chuck

    ps: To adjust back brakes for cars w/ self adjusting drum brakes. Drive the car

    in reverse and stop a few times. They are designed this way. The engineers
    figure
    that "in normal auto usage", everyone backs up from time to time.
     
    chuck smoko, Dec 5, 2004
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  5. Matt

    Elector Guest


    Yes Chuck, that may also be the symptoms as you mention above for
    other than bad brakes. But grasshopper all the symptoms you named are
    brake problems none the less.

    Your correct about the screamer pads (shims) not being required all
    over, I always have the mechanic look at my brakes when ever they make
    a noise out of the ordinary. (Dirty pads or rotors, stones caught in
    the calipers, etc.) The back drum brakes are not used as hard as the
    front brakes so you will find many times the backs last almost forever
    while the front brakes need to be replaced every two years on some
    cars and depending on driving habits.

    Elector
     
    Elector, Dec 6, 2004
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