CD player problems

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mike, Jun 21, 2004.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Just added a factory CD to my 94 SL2. CD inserts and spins up okay, but
    after 10 seconds the display says 'err' and the CD is ejected. It seems
    to be a known problem as some vendors offer a fix (~175.00), but I can't
    find any specifics. Can someone shed some light on this?

    TIA

    Mike
     
    Mike, Jun 21, 2004
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  2. Is it a store bought music cd or one you've burned on the home computer?
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jun 21, 2004
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  3. Mike

    Mike Guest

    I've tried a couple different store bought CDs, all brand new in the
    last couple weeks.
    Mike
     
    Mike, Jun 21, 2004
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  4. ....hmmm - I have no idea (other than to replace), sorry.
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jun 23, 2004
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  5. This is OEM equipment you're trying to install? Is it new or used?
    Have you tried taking it apart and examining the laser head for
    scratches or dust? Not sure how difficult this would be. The only
    thing I might consider using to clean the head if it is dirty is an SLR
    lens cleaner cloth, or maybe if you're careful 'compressed air from a
    can' that is usually used for cleaning electronics. Anything else is
    liable to scratch it, and any sort of solvent may leave a film.

    I know this will sound odd, but try some of your older CDs (more than a
    year old) if you have any. Also, trying burning an audio CD if you can
    - make sure the session is closed ("no more data can be written to this
    disc") and the media is a CD-R disc (not a CD-RW).

    The record labels have been screwing around with CDs in a major way
    latley, adding data tracks and other nonsense which have programs that
    automatically install copy protection software onto your harddrive, ie:

    http://www.techcentralstation.com/120202C.html

    http://msl1.mit.edu/furdlog/index.php?p=2099

    http://www.stargeek.com/item/79101.html

    http://ukcdr.org/issues/cd/bad/

    Wouldn't seem that should affect your _car_ CD player, but some CD
    players simply can't handle mixed-mode (data and audio tracks) or
    crippled (copy protected) CDs. They shouldn't have to, either.

    The record labels don't give a rip about whether or not it works in your
    car. You've already bought and opened the CD and in most cases, can't
    return it.

    Let me emphasize something the articles say: if it turns out that the CD
    player works just fine (ie, you burned a CD and it plays without a
    problem or plays old CDs) - it is /not/ the CD player's fault. There
    are no new "standards" or "upgrades" or "patches" that your CD player
    requires*. The record companies, however, want to blame you and suggest
    otherwise.

    Bastards.

    -rj
    98SL2

    * Some "newer" CD players know how to tolerate mixed-mode and crippled
    CDs - but they have been specifically designed to do so outside the
    standards of the audio-cd format.
     
    richard hornsby, Jun 23, 2004
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  6. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Yeah, it's OEM. I thought I would try and use the 'correct' equipment
    and it's backfired.

    I cleaned the lens with 100% isopropyl alcohol, per a CD site. No
    difference. I also tried an older CD (original 'Centerfield', 1984) with
    no luck. As someone on another site said: "it's broke". Thanks for the
    help, though, and I will keep in mind the CD format problems.

    Thanks!
     
    Mike, Jun 23, 2004
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  7. The record companies are too funny - a $15 CD just can't compete with a $15
    or $20 DVD, besides for an old fart like me pop music is not on the top of
    my list to purchase. I do like finding odd or old (or both) CD's and or
    just DL'ing a track or two from iTunes, Musicmatch, etc.

    Bastards - short and to the point, I like that! (grin)
     
    Jonnie Santos, Jun 24, 2004
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  8. Philips is going after record companies that use some of the copy
    protection schemes (which don't even work anyway), because they do
    things that make the CD a non 'red book' CD. I.e. it no longer follows
    the defined standard for CD-DA. Because of this, Philips is preventing
    the companies from using the 'Compact Disc Digital Audio" logo on said
    discs. Thus, one potential way to find such nonstandard CDs should be
    to look for the absence of the CD logo. Of course, I'm sure the record
    cos will sue and things will get messy..
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Jun 28, 2004
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