saturn cars panel undentable?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by peter, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. peter

    peter Guest

    Are the side panels of saturn cars really immune to small door dents?

    If so, why isn't this idea copied by other car makers?
     
    peter, Oct 7, 2004
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    mikek Guest

    I dont think they are immune, just more resistant. I was in a small fender
    bender and the panel flexed in and out..great right? Well as the panel
    flexed it also creased and wrinkled in the center of the impact and it had
    to be replaced just as if it were metal. However it was a lot cheaper to
    replace
     
    mikek, Oct 7, 2004
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  3. peter

    Bob Shuman Guest

    They seem to do very well in minor accidents and don't dent like sheet
    metal, but they still are prone to the paint chipping off. My son had a
    friend back into his '96 SL and hit him in the front driver door. You
    really have to look hard to see where it was damaged.

    As to why others do not use these panels, I presume it is because of the
    cost involved to re-tool.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Oct 7, 2004
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    Art Guest

    Actually now a days the sheet metal in cars is so flexible that there are
    paintless dent removal companies like Dent Wizard who can fix minor metal
    car dents cheap by pushing them out from the inside. If job isn't perfect
    you don't pay. Only works if paint was not damaged. I've had car doors
    fixed several times and they came out perfect.
     
    Art, Oct 7, 2004
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  5. Yes, and I've wondered the same. And especially as the car gets older and
    if you've kept the finish waxed, they really look nice.
     
    Jonnie Santos, Oct 7, 2004
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  6. Kinda sorta. instead of denting, hit them hard enough and they *crack*.
    Ever see a 10 year old Saturn? Body gaps you can stick a finger into.

    Plastic doesn't dent, but over time it warps, shrinks, and distorts.
     
    Philip Nasadowski, Oct 7, 2004
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  7. peter

    Lane Guest

    I have an 11 year old Saturn, and a 12 year old Saturn - neither of which
    have warped, shrunken, or distorted panels. Body gaps look the same as when
    I bought the 11 year old one new.

    Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
     
    Lane, Oct 8, 2004
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    werner339 Guest

    I hate those little dings you see on the sides of massive metal body
    panels, even on new cars that have had a minor encounters with the
    occasional shopping cart or another car door. My full size 95 Chevy van
    has one ding on the side that detracts from an otherwise pristine body,
    drives me nuts. My 94 Saturn, and my 99 Saturn have no signs of any dings,
    despite 250,000 miles combined. I've had to replace broken panels on my 94
    after getting hit on one side in a hit and run while it was parked, but it
    was relatively inexpensive, and looks fine.
     
    werner339, Oct 8, 2004
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    Tim Delaney Guest

    Well, my 9 year old SW1 hasn't warped, shrunken, expanded or cracked
    (except for the fender where a deer's hoof punched through a fender on
    a cold February night... at 20 below, they do crack when whacked hard
    enough), and the original paint is still shiny. I don't baby it. I've
    got over 350,000 km on it, it isn't garaged and I live in eastern
    Canada where we get plenty of snow, salt, cold and damp weather. I
    can't comment on how a Saturn performs in an extremely hot
    environment. It doesn't matter what brand/quality of car you own: if
    you don't take reasonable care of it, it'll look like crap after ten
    years.

    As far as body gaps are concerned, they don't appear to be much bigger
    than those on my '84 Mercedes - I guess the size of a gap around doors
    and the hood is important to some people - "Gee, that car's in great
    shape for being nine years old, too bad it's got those unsightly gaps
    where the doors are..."

    The side panels of the car have taken plenty of whacks from
    inconsiderate drivers, resulting in superficial scratches, which I
    have buffed or waxed out for the most part. This is in pretty dramatic
    contrast to a glance down either side of my old Benz or my wife's '97
    GMC Safari, both of whom have significant cases of "shopping cart
    rash".

    I think GM is making a big mistake in eliminating the polymer panels
    on Saturns, eliminating a major reason why I bought one.

    Tim Delaney
     
    Tim Delaney, Oct 8, 2004
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    Dan Duncan Guest

    Somewhat. My 1998 SW2 still looks great. My 2003 Subaru (parked
    in generally the same places next to I assume generally the same cars)
    has several noticeable dings down the side.
    Dunno, but Saturn is abandoning this practice as well. It's one
    of many ways Saturn has jumped the shark.

    -DanD
     
    Dan Duncan, Oct 9, 2004
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