Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales

It must be your client because I see no seperate thread here ever by
me unless I start one but I do see seperate threads created by others
when they do so. My software is working from my perspective and I have
been using Agent for over 10 years now too and you are the only one to
complain so perhaps you should look in your own backyard.

 

Please get a life....

 

Now it is name calling huh? WHo is the real BoZo here?

 

You did it again...

PLONK

 

This has been explained to you repeatedly. Go to Google Groups and LOOK AT
YOUR POSTS. It's YOUR CLIENT that's putting that stuff in there.

Obviously you've had it configured incorrectly for ten years.

FALSE -- and you know it. At least two other people have raised the same issue
with you in this newsgroup.

Nope. Problem is entirely with the configuration of your client. Not my fault
you're unable to figure that out -- I tried.

 

Snoman,

I also see the same problem with your subject line headers that Doug has
repeatedly pointed out and presume that others see this as well. Although
it does not affect my newsreader and the threads display correctly, I agree
that your configuration is not quite right and deserves looking into.

Bob

 

It's not just his client. In this article you just posted, the Subject:
line reads:

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales

Let's check a public news server:

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201 free-text.usenetserver.com -- http://www.usenetserver.com/ (Tornado v1.0.6)
mode reader
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
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.... see? No newsreading client was even involved here. All those Re:'s
are coming from you, not Doug's client.

-- Mark

 

Not on my reader. Here, it causes no problem of any sort. In fact, your
incessant whining is about 50x as obnoxious.

 

Okay, I hadn't read about that before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection

Sounds interesting and potentially usable for some items. I only wonder
if you can get the same torque out of a GDi engine.

Of course the latest common rail diesel (CRD) engines don't acutally use
direct injection anymore. The bosch injectors are actually more like the
ones in gas engines where the fuel is mixed prior to injection in the
cylinder. (At least that's how I underststand it.)

I just like diesel because of the ability to run on veggie oil and other
common items.

Yes, hence turbos in gas engines. I see the CR is higher in GDi engines.
Interesting.

Yeah, but it is certianly cheaper when you're filling up your 30-gallon
tank at Costco for $2.41 as opposed to $2.85 for premium 89 octane.

(Obviously I'm referring to my Avalanche and not my wife's Vue.)

Interesting argument. I wonder what will happen.


--
kai
www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com
www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com

closing the doors that surround me
so no one will ever penetrate
complete my retreat just to wait for the day
that never comes so i will laugh alone

 

Agreed. This is getting childish, folks.

I see no Re re re... things happening.


Of course, it could be because I'm using Linux and not Wintendo...


--
kai
www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com
www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com

closing the doors that surround me
so no one will ever penetrate
complete my retreat just to wait for the day
that never comes so i will laugh alone

 

Again...Facts mean nothing to Snoball. He will make no attempt at fixing
agent. While you guys are in Google entertain yourselfs by reading the
crap he post and the countless corrections others have to make.

Here's a good one that sums him up

 

pfft... 820 worthless post in the month of Febuary. Yup you're a troll.

 

For the sake of argument, lets say a small car - Saturn, perhaps - has
a 2.4l 170HP engine and gets 30MPG.

Then you put in a higher efficiency, higher compression motor - say 1.8l
170HP - that gets 38MPG, but requires premium fuel.

Then while I'm paying the extra 20 cents a gallon (the difference
between 87 & 91 octane here in St. Louis), I'm rewarded with higher MPG,
so it may actually be cheaper to use the higher octane / more efficient
combo.

smaller forced induction motors can and should replace larger
displacement NA engines, but consumers, insurance companies, and
manufacturers don't want it, don't understand it, and don't do it (in
that order).

 

That would be amusing if it weren't so sad. Just FWIW -- the "Doug" who was
the OP in that thread is *not* me.

 

Normally, I'm not into the name-calling thing, either, but if the shoe
fits ....
Clearly, SnoMan, the extra "Re:" is being added somewhere in your
environment or your provider's, since it always appears on your posts.
Personally, I think Doug Miller's reaction (to Killfile you) is a bit
strong but there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he is correct in his
claim ....

 

FWIW, I agree with SnoMan on this one -- my client (MS OE) is *not*
showing separate threads by him (other than those he obviously intends to be
so).

 

Whether they appear as separate threads is client-dependent.

 

Now now, lets play nice - even to those of us who still use OE

As far as GM "killing off Saturn", I say bah. To quote Dylan, the times they
are a changin'. For Saturn, it's change or die. As the L-series was
originally "helped" by Opel, it only makes logical sense that Saturn again
turns to them, and furthermore the fact that they are both GM companies.
Lets be honest here, GM has been starving Saturn for new product for years
now. Its due time for new models to appear. The days of the cheapo-economy
box are over sad to say, but it's all part of survival, evolve or die.

The one thing that Saturn has never and will not go away from is their
reputation (mostly good) for taking care of people. To that extent, Saturn
will always be Saturn. I can say that with all confidence because I know one
of the original Saturn people who still believes strongly in the original
concept. The cars may change, but Saturn is trying to maintain their
original people philosophy while building better cars. IMHO, after 12 years
of the S-series and 5 years of the ION, change is long overdue.